Meeting Report

X3L8 Special Interest Group

Held at the National Institute of Standards and Technology

November 19 and 20, 1997

 

Attendees:

Bruce Bargmeyer, Environmental Protection Agency

Larry Fitzwater, Environmental Protection Agency

Henry Heffernan, EDPNS

William Kenworthey, Jr., Self

Doug Mann, Pacific Northwest Laboratory

John McCarthy, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory

Judith Newton, National Institute of Standards and Technology

Phong Ngo, Science Applications International Corporation

Revere D. Perkins, Meta4, Inc.

 

Judith Newton chaired the meetings.

The following reports the issues raised and decisions made:

 

1. Status of ISO 11179 parts

Committee work on ISO 11179 parts 1 and 2 is complete for the current drafts and the editors are forwarding the documents to the SC32 Secretariat for circulation on Final CD ballot.

 

2. Date Standard

The Department of Defense is concerned about the Date standard. A meeting will be set up to attempt to resolve the issues. The proposed date is Dec 12, 1997. We would like to add some topics to the meeting: Working together with DoD on data registry standards, particularly gaining interoperability between the DoD Defense Data Dictionary System (DDDS) and collaborating on development of registry contents. Environmental data and healthcare data are two areas of content in which collaboration on data standards could be very fruitful.

 

3. Metamodel

 

Metamodel database was updated with 11179 Part 1 and Part 2 and Metamodel term changes. Some minor changes were made to the documents. Doug sent the draft to NCITS. A press release has been prepared and should be sent out by NCITS next week. This will be the 2nd public review period (Dec 5, 1997 - Feb 5, 1998).

 

4. Social event for L8

Karen Kirkbride will organize a session at for December 12, spouses included. A message will be sent out describing where and when.

 

5. Report on K5

Doug Mann reported on the latest meeting of K5, Terminology. The group is editing about eight sections of ISO 2382, a 37 Part international standard on Terminology. They will review Part 5, Representation of Data, this week. Doug provided them with our terms and definitions. K5 would like to put the ANDIS and ISO 2382 up on the web. We hope to help them put it up. They have an ISO directive "Drafting and Presentation of Terms and Definitions" available on the Internet.

FTP://ftp.iec.ch/pub/directives/dirp3e.pdf

 

6. Medical data registry

Health Care Financing Administration (HCFA) has the responsibly to develop a registry to support the Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). HCFA desires to develop internal registries to support their internal functions. HCFA influences the directions of DHHS in their registry directions and with publishers of X12N-Insurance standards.

A meeting will be held December 10 with HICFA, health affairs, EPA, and others to discuss registry use for the healthcare industry. The purpose of the cooperative work is to share experiences, to partition the future development among the participants. We will look into the possibility for cooperative work between registry developers. The purpose of the cooperative work is to share experiences, to partition the future development among the participants. Bob Mayes, of DoD, wants to change the Washington Publishing Company PDF data dictionary document of X12N standards into a full data registry based upon ISO/IEC 11179.

 

7. JTC1 ballot on BSR.

L8 members developed a position on the JTC N5041. We support the resolution as made at the Berkeley Workshop.

 

8. Learning Object Metadata Group (LOMG)

The L8 SIG met jointly with the LOMG group on the afternoon of the first day. Phong NGO and Doug Mann gave presentations of L8 material. The group has included the ISO 11179 concepts in their work. We also engaged LMOG workgroups in the afternoon.

Oracle presentation

Reusable Content Objects (RCO) has hierarchy of granular content--Topic Group, Topic, RCO and Component.

See http://ola.oracle.com

 

Educational Object Economy Project Presentation

Keeping track of Java educational objects.

 

Steve White, Microsoft

 

Chair, P1484 Learning Object Study Group

 

9. Revision of x3.145, Hydrologic Unit Codes

 

We reviewed the SD3 prepared by Phong Ngo and accepted Phong as editor. Phong will make the revisions and send out for ballot.

 

10. Symposium on Metadata Registration

The Bureau of the Census, EPA and NIST would sponsor this symposium. Judith Newton scheduled NIST conference rooms for April 15 - 17. We can hold about 60 participants, this probably means that we need to limit participation to "invitation only". We believe that about a third of the participants would be participants of various standards bodies. We would like to have NCITS & L8 sponsorship of this meeting to broaden the range of participants in L8 activities. However, if the "invitation only" aspect is not acceptable to NCITS, we would proceed without. We would like to attract people outside the current standards community.

 

Goals:

First symposium: Information exchange, introduce concepts to new users

Second symposium?: Consolidation of ideas, set directions

 

Topics:

Metadata registration - Day 1

Metadata registries - D1

Data registry operations - D2

Metadata Standards - D1

Stewardship - D2

Data Standards - D1

Classification, terminology management, keywords, thesauri, controlled vocabularies, taxonimies, ontologies - Panel D?

Interfaces - D2

Metadata registry interoperation - D2

Metadata registry transfer standards - D2

Metadata registry Application Program Interface (API) - D2

Metadata registry metamodel - D1

Domain Management - D2

XML-Registry relationship - D2

Electronic Data Communication, EDI, edi, X12, Electronic Commerce

Registration of metamodels - GILS, FGDC, DIF, ... - D2

Registry use by Agents/Mediators - D2

ISO/IEC 11179 &DpANS X3.285 - D1

Registry as tool for data standardization - Panel D?

Implementation Experience - D3

 

2. Who attend?

Registry implementers

Environment (Bruce Bargmeyer)

--EPA

--States?

--DOD/DESCIM

 

Demographics (Dan Gillman, Bill LaPlant)

--Census

 

Healthcare (Doug Mann)

--DOD/Health Affairs

--Health and Human Services

--X12

--Australia (AIHW)

--HCFA

--IEEE

 

Transportation (Burt Parker, Andy Schoka)

--DOT

--States?

--IEEE

 

Defense (Jerry Smith? Becky Harris?)

--DISA

--Health Affairs

--DESCIM

 

Education - Judith Newton (& others at NIST)

--Dept of Education

--IMS

--IEEE

 

3. Structure

--Panels

--Presentations

--Open forum (open mike)

 

4. Rough grouping of topics

--Overview

--Functions (metamodel sections)

>>stewardship, Name&ID, classification, domains, data concepts

--Users and uses

--Subjects (most of the list of topics goes here)

--Current implementations

 

5. Agenda

Day 1: Overview

morning presentations (9-Noon):

--Overview

--Functions

--Users/Uses

Lunch

Panel (topic?) (1:30 - 3:00)

Long break

Open forum (3:30 - 5 PM)

 

Social time?

 

Day 2: Hot Topics

 

Morning presentations: (9 - Noon)

--Selected subjects

 

Lunch

Panel (1:30 - 3:00)

--Topic ?

Long break

Open forum (3:30 - 5PM )

 

 

Day 3: Implementation accomplishments

 

Morning presentations (9 - Noon)

--Current implementers experience ("war stories")

 

Lunch

 

Panel (1:30 - 3:00)

Topic - Collaboration Potential

--Implementation collaboration

--Harmonization of contents

Long Break

Open forum 3:30 - 5PM

 

10. Future meeting schedule

L8 SIG, December 17 and 18, 1997 at NIST or NIH

January 21 - 23, 1998 at ITI backup at NIST North.

SC 32 planning meeting February 23-25, 1998 at NIST

Potential SC14 WG1 joint meeting with SC30 WG1 proposed for February 18-20 1998, in conjunction with the SC 32 planning meeting.

Directions to NIST North: NIST North is Building 820. The address of this building is 820 West Diamond Avenue. Note that the building is located across the street from the main campus of NIST. Instead of turning onto Bureau Drive toward the main Gate of NIST, turn the opposite direction (North) onto Bureau Drive and take the second possible right turn to get to the NIST North building, The building has the name ?NIST? on it in large letters. (From Interstate 270, driving North, take Exit 10, which loops under the freeway, and then turn RIGHT at the first stop light--this is the intersection of West Diamond Avenue and Bureau drive.)

 

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