Minutes of INCITS L8 TGTD Meeting, December 4-5, 2002

Wednesday, December 4:

9:00-11:30 L8 TGTD, NIST North, Room 501.

9:00 a.m. Administrative Items:

Agenda review. Additional item: determination of future meeting dates.

Those are: April 24-25 (MDRIC April 23); June 19-20 (MDRIC 18); July 16-17 (MDRIC 15, L8 Plenary 18). All will be at NIST North, Room 152.

Introduction of visitors (if any) Teresa Kroll stated her intention of becoming active again after having a baby. Welcome!

Report of L8 issues: Dan Gillman. Discussion of proposed recommended attendees to SC 32/WG 2. ISO CD 11179-1 and 20943-3 US ballots passed. US positions for the WG 2 meeting will be determined during the discussion of each document.

Doug Mann reported that the funding for SC 32 Secretariat will be running out (January 2005) and a notice was sent to that effect to the US TAG to JTC1. A discussion of possibilities for US retention of the Secretariat ensued.

10:30 a.m. Discussion of U.S. key member for Part 3 - Larry Fitzwater. Larry stated that we need to appoint a point person from the US to drive the development of the new work of Part 3 and keep track of the proposed changes and open issues. Doug is willing to maintain the model but cannot represent US positions to WG 2. Burt Parker volunteered to be the Part 3 coordinator within the US. He brings real implementation experience to the table and is eager to improve the model by addressing specific issues.

Larry proposed establishing a schedule for Part 3 revision such that a ballot in two years is a valid possibility.

11:30 a.m.-1:00 p.m. Lunch.

1:00-4:30 p.m. L8 TGTD resumes.

1:00 p.m. Discussion of 11179-6: Doug Mann

Doug described the changes to registration status in this version. New annexes have been added. We had a discussion about statuses and required attributes. There were no substantive comments on this version.

Part 4: Bruce Bargmeyer by teleconference. Part 4 ballot closes in April (N909). Dan would like to see an expansion of rules of metadata quality. Is this the best place for it? How about Part 6 (rules of MDQ to go to next higher status)? Should we have a TR?

Doug suggested circulating US comments in advance of ballot closing.

3:00 p.m. Items from JTC1 Plenary: Frank Farance, Bob Haggar

ITSG products have improved all our lives. Case in point: the ISO document template. Now they bring us:

Metadata for Standards – Can US put an NP forward so SC 32 can agree to it at the Santa Fe plenary? Why us and not the library community (TC 46)? We’d like to see a document about this to think about it. Frank will circulate one. It will be on the US TAG to SC 32 teleconference agenda tomorrow.

4:30 p.m. Adjournment for the day

Thursday, December 5:

This was the agenda of items scheduled to be discussed Thursday. However, NIST was closed due to inclement weather, and the meeting was cancelled.

9:00-11:30 L8 TGTD, NIST North Room 501.

9:00 a.m. Report on Ontology-related Projects, including discussion of NP for CG/KIF: Mike Gruninger

10:00 Discussion of 11179-2: Jim Carpenter, Nancy Lawler

11:30-1:00 p.m. Lunch: Dining Room C

1:00-4:30 p.m. L8 TGTD resumes.

1:00-2:00 p.m. US Tag to SC 32 teleconference.

2:00 p.m. Discussion of the direction of Version 3 of 11179 Part 3: Larry Fitzwater

see:

http://metadata-stds.org/Document-library/Meeting-reports/SC32WG2/Standing-documents/

wg2sd13-FCD-11179-3-Open-Issues-Documents.doc

also:

wg2sd14-ngWD-11179-3-Open-Issues-Documents.doc

4:30 Adjournment

Friday, December 6:

INCITS L8 Plenary

List of Attendees

Judith Newton, NIST

Dan Gillman, BLS

Larry Fitzwater, EPA

Doug Mann, Battelle

Theresa Krol, HHS/CMS

Burt Parker, Paladin

Jim Mercio, VA

Nancy Lawler, NSA

Jim Carpenter, BLS

Frank Farance, Farance Inc

Wm. H. Kenworthey, Self

Bruce Bargmeyer, LBL

Bob Haggar, JTC1

Respectfully Submitted,

Judith Newton

Chair